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johnfowles · 03-22-2008, 03:35 PM

Many thanks for bringng this up again Kevin, for the benefit of those here who just
might be unaware of it
Yes it was pretty exhaustively featured a few months ago andIi think it was
Ron Meason (RM) who got his son using mp3mymp3 to record the streaming audio.
According to the vault site they have stored these concerts not in a "perfect"
quality "lossless" format, but as compressed mp3s ( a "lossy" format) of admittedly high quality (256 KBPS) Now I beileve that whilst that quality produces sound
quality of a very high standard that few will be able to distinguish from the original wav format, there is an arguable dicscrepancy... oops discrepancy even!! here.....
I suspect that Ron and Son recorded the stream firstly as wav files then made
320KBPs mp3s from them . Iif you search here you should find the older thread in
which Ron announced the uploading of the 320 set of mp3s. it may be a moot
point but it seems to me that reconstituting the 256 KBPS mp3s to wavs then
recompressing to 320KBPS may not be the optimum way of dealing with these files.If I am wrong Ron please chime in.I have spent some time unsuccessfully trying to
find a working "sniffer" programme to try to get the actual addresses of their 256
mp3s so that they could be directly downloaded ,but possibly since the Vault sells
other concerts using an mp3 download system they have obfuscated the actual mp3 addresses/URLs to prevent unpaid for downloading.Any ideas anybody??
Gunther in Sydney what say you???
Char I am sorry if your head now hurts!! Later no I am not thinking helps preseve your youth doesn' it

03-22-2008, 03:35 PM	#2
johnfowles Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: New Jersey U.S.A. ex UK and Canada Posts: 4,846	Re: Gordon Lightfoot Concert Fillmore west Oct 5, 1968 Many thanks for bringng this up again Kevin, for the benefit of those here who just might be unaware of it Yes it was pretty exhaustively featured a few months ago andIi think it was Ron Meason (RM) who got his son using mp3mymp3 to record the streaming audio. According to the vault site they have stored these concerts not in a "perfect" quality "lossless" format, but as compressed mp3s ( a "lossy" format) of admittedly high quality (256 KBPS) Now I beileve that whilst that quality produces sound quality of a very high standard that few will be able to distinguish from the original wav format, there is an arguable dicscrepancy... oops discrepancy even!! here..... I suspect that Ron and Son recorded the stream firstly as wav files then made 320KBPs mp3s from them . Iif you search here you should find the older thread in which Ron announced the uploading of the 320 set of mp3s. it may be a moot point but it seems to me that reconstituting the 256 KBPS mp3s to wavs then recompressing to 320KBPS may not be the optimum way of dealing with these files.If I am wrong Ron please chime in.I have spent some time unsuccessfully trying to find a working "sniffer" programme to try to get the actual addresses of their 256 mp3s so that they could be directly downloaded ,but possibly since the Vault sells other concerts using an mp3 download system they have obfuscated the actual mp3 addresses/URLs to prevent unpaid for downloading.Any ideas anybody?? Gunther in Sydney what say you??? Char I am sorry if your head now hurts!! Later no I am not thinking helps preseve your youth doesn' it __________________ "Sir" John Fowles Bt Honorary Curator Bootleg Museum (where Sir does not signify that I am a fully benighted Knight just a Bt which signifies a humble Baronet -?? read the wiki!) I meant no one no harm Once inside we found a curious moonbeam Doing dances on the floor Last edited by johnfowles; 03-22-2008 at 05:27 PM.